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Compared to Civ III, IV is SLOW to play
Old 09-22-2006, 09:53 PM   #1
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A couple of questions, more may follow.

1) Is it possible to speed up the game build times. 20 to 40 turns to build
first settler? It's ploddingly slow in building anything. Booooooooring.

2) How does one get the game to automatically centre on the active unit?

I'm afraid this game is not a interesting as Civ III.


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Old 09-23-2006, 01:44 AM   #2
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In article <57c3da00942d45c2f09bb84781775cb0@grapevine.islandn et.com>,
Roger T. <rogertra@highspeedplus.com> writes
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A couple of questions, more may follow.1) Is it possible to speed up the game build times. 20 to 40 turns to buildfirst settler? It's ploddingly slow in building anything. Booooooooring.


Choose Custom Game, Fast Game.
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2) How does one get the game to automatically centre on the active unit?


It does so, normally. If you have moved away from it for any reason,
then just press the "C" key as set out in the manual. (Actually, there
is one exception to the "normally" - if you are moving a succession of
units away from the same location, it does not go back to centre on the
remaining ones after each one id moved - if needed, press C.)
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I'm afraid this game is not a interesting as Civ III.

It's so much better than Civ III it isn't funny. IMO, Civ III was less
fun than Civ II. Civ IV is all the things Civ III should have been but
failed dismally to achieve. However, it's a varied world, and YMMV.

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Old 09-23-2006, 03:11 AM   #3
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"Roger T." <rogertra@highspeedplus.com> wrote in message
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A couple of questions, more may follow. 1) Is it possible to speed up the game build times. 20 to 40 turns to build first settler? It's ploddingly slow in building anything. Booooooooring. 2) How does one get the game to automatically centre on the active unit? I'm afraid this game is not a interesting as Civ III. -- Cheers Roger T. Home of the Great Eastern Railway http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/


1) Try custom game - Speed setting "Quick"
2) Automatic centre, dunno - "C" key does it manually.


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Old 09-23-2006, 10:48 AM   #4
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you can find the option to automatically center on the active unit in the
options or preferences (whatever it's called). Once you start the game,
pres ESC. One of the menu items is options or whatever. Click that and go
through. There are also other options there that you can turn on and off -
like automatic center, auto cycling, whether to show each unit as a single
person or a group, whether to zoom on conflicts, etc.



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Old 09-23-2006, 07:05 PM   #5
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:53:55 -0700, "Roger T."
<rogertra@highspeedplus.com> wrote:
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A couple of questions, more may follow.1) Is it possible to speed up the game build times. 20 to 40 turns to buildfirst settler? It's ploddingly slow in building anything. Booooooooring.


Some people complained that Civ3 was too fast ;-) Yes, you can set
a faster game speed. The default gives you about twice as many total
game turns, I think, than Civ3, so playing on a faster speed will give
you closer to a Civ3 feel.

But it is a different game. Unlike in Civ3, you don't need as many
settlers or cities, especially early in the game. You can't
automatically build things with your worker, you need the right techs
in order to do so. Because of that, the early game period can focus
on exploration, not direct expansion, which makes the "slow" turns
much less boring.

My advice for starting out: if you can use a worker immediately,
build one right away. Otherwise, turn out a warrior or scout and
explore for a while, waiting for your city to grow and tech to advance
enough to make workers and settlers useful.

The first settler can be turned out pretty quickly if you build a
worker, research bronze working, and cut down forests.
Alternatively, if you have good food resources improved and have
hills, build mines and have enough production to make a settler pretty
fast. Yet another way to speed up the settler is to make a worker,
improve a lot of food squares, then build a settler. Optionally,
research bronze working and adopt slavery, then you can trade some
city population for faster production. I don't like doing this for my
*first* settler, as I'd rather keep my city growth up, but it isn't
bad at all for later ones.

In any case, your early turns can go fast, wandering the world and
seeing and greeting, making the wait for the first settler not seem
long at all.
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2) How does one get the game to automatically centre on the active unit?


Press C or the center mouse button. I can't remember if there is a
way to make it automatically center, but it isn't hard to spot the
active unit on the screen.
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I'm afraid this game is not a interesting as Civ III.


It has way more potential than CivIII.
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Old 09-23-2006, 07:17 PM   #6
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Thanks for the hints everyone, especially to Jeffery.


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Old 09-25-2006, 08:40 AM   #7
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Roger T. wrote
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2) How does one get the game to automatically centre on the active unit?


Another way to center manually on the unit is to click the central
mouse button.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:25 AM   #8
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"Roger T." <rogertra@highspeedplus.com> wrote in message
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A couple of questions, more may follow. 1) Is it possible to speed up the game build times. 20 to 40 turns to build first settler? It's ploddingly slow in building anything. Booooooooring. 2) How does one get the game to automatically centre on the active unit? I'm afraid this game is not a interesting as Civ III.


Civ III was the worst of all the Civs IMO, but each to their own I guess.


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Old 09-25-2006, 12:52 PM   #9
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Thanks to everyone's help, I'm now well into a new game and, it seems, I'm
the leading civ.

However, I still feel that I'm not in control of the game.

I find trying to see what units and improvements are in each city is a pain.

The game still doesn't cycle, or appear to cycle through all active units
like Civ III did. For example, my ships are off on their own and I have to
hunt around to find them,

I cannot find any way to view a list what units are in each city as in I
could in Civ III by going to the military advisor.

I can't find anyway to upgrade all units at once, I have to do it city by
city, units be unit, a real pain.

An oblique view would be handy rather than the constant overhead view.


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Old 09-25-2006, 04:31 PM   #10
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"Roger T." <rogertra@highspeedplus.com> wrote in message
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Thanks to everyone's help, I'm now well into a new game and, it seems, I'm the leading civ. However, I still feel that I'm not in control of the game. I find trying to see what units and improvements are in each city is a pain. The game still doesn't cycle, or appear to cycle through all active units like Civ III did. For example, my ships are off on their own and I have to hunt around to find them,



Click F5 for your military advisor. Then click on a particular unit type.
(for instance Destroyers) On the map to the left, all of your destroyers
will now blink. Click on one of them on that map, and your main map will
center there. When you leave the F5 screen, there you are.
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I cannot find any way to view a list what units are in each city as in I could in Civ III by going to the military advisor. I can't find anyway to upgrade all units at once, I have to do it city by city, units be unit, a real pain.


When you move your mouse over the upgrade button, it tells you how much it
will cost to upgrade the unit. It also says hit <alt> for all. If you hold
down the <alt> key and click the upgrade button, it upgrades all of your
units of that type.
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An oblique view would be handy rather than the constant overhead view. -- Cheers Roger T. Home of the Great Eastern Railway http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/


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